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nhochrein 12-01-2009 06:29 PM

Help ID please!
 
Can anyone give me some ideas on where to start for IDing this coin? http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/36087.php
any info would be great!
thanks!

rasiel 12-02-2009 03:00 AM

any chance you can shine a light straight into that coin and retake the photograph? it's way too dark to make out any detail.

ras

BCNumismatics 12-09-2009 09:30 PM

You should really use a flat-bed scanner for taking photos of coins,as digital cameras aren't very good for taking photos of coins.

You should download this FREE photo editor; http://www.photoscape.org ,then you can edit your photos,including lightening them.

I can recommend it myself,as I use it for editing my photos.

Aidan.

mrichter 12-10-2009 11:42 AM

I think I replied to you about this in a message but here is what I can see:

Obverse: Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right, with legend: DN . . . . . . . . . . . .P F AVG
Reverse: tye obscured by wear with legend: . . . . V . . . . . . . ..

This is enough to clearly show that this can NOT be a VOTA type. The visible "V" in the reverse legend means that the reverse is most likely one of the following:

SALVS REPVBLICE
GLORIA EXERCITVS
SPES REPBVBLICAE
GLORIA ROMANORVM
SECVRITAS REIPVB

Or another legend that has a "V" in it.

I would hazard a guess that this is a SPES or SALVS version that originally depicted Nike advancing left. I think I see Nikes wings in the middle of the coins. This could just be a trick of the light or change due to wear, so this is a very tentative guess.

This coin could be almost any Ae3 or Ae4 in RIC VII, VIII or IX.

Without better photos, size and wieght of the coin. That is the best I can do.

Regards,

Matt

nhochrein 12-18-2009 06:29 PM

To answer the questions: I used a scanner and it was the best image I could get.
The coin on the rev. has a wreath with letters inside.
nhochrein

mrichter 12-19-2009 02:49 PM

If you can clearly see a wreath with a VOT inside, my last post must be wrong. I went back to my collection and found aa few coins that I had forgotten about. See if this is a match for yours: http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/14680.php

Matt

nhochrein 12-21-2009 11:19 AM

I don't think it matches. I don't see letters on the outside of the wreath. The hair goes further down the neck too I think.
nhochrein

mrichter 12-21-2009 11:02 PM

I wasn't suggesting an exact match. I would need more evidence of the emperor on the obverse for that. However, I do see a legend around the outside on the reverse. The picture you posted on Tantalus clearly show a "V" between 10 and 11 o'clock and there is what looks to be a partial letter at 3 o'clock.

Let me know if I am seeign things ;)

Matt

nhochrein 02-08-2010 03:58 PM

Better Pic!!!!!
 
Hi, it is not a V. I have updated the pic and am getting better at reading legends. It is DN CONSTAN---------------PF AVG.
Thanks!
nhochrein

mrichter 02-09-2010 10:01 PM

With the better picture, more can be said about this coin.

The obverse legend narrows it down to Constantine I, Constantine II, Constantius II or Constans. With an apparent break in the obverse legend after the first A, the most likely of these is Constans.

Next, the reverse photo is upside down. I can see the MVLT XX. The legend within the wreath will start with VOT and then have a number of Vs or Xs then MVLT XX. There may or may not be a third X at the end. If we assume that the Emperor is Constans, then the legend within the wreath is most likely VOT XV MVLT XX or VOT XX MVLT XX. Either of these could have a third X at the end.

Another open issue: is there a legend around the outside of the wreath? It looks like there might be to me.

Regards,

Matt


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